Trouble With The Ladies, Ace? Part 1
So, I had a conflict with a lady that I hold dear to me recently. One of the many that I’ve had with women on my journey. Too many to count. So many it feels like millions.
Ahhh, wait a minute… So if I had a dollar for every time I…
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Nevermind… Let’s get on with it, shall we?
She told me about myself; what’s happening around me, in the world; how god works; and why I am in the situation I’m in. She told me how I SHOULD be thinking and reacting (from her closed-minded perspective) opposed to how I am currently handling things (from a universal perspective, with a broader understanding and the bigger picture in mind)…
I kinda went in on her, like I’ve foolishly and immaturely done quite often when dealing with these things. But I kept the logic, reason and higher thinking present, even in my minimal rage; as I always do. Although it was shot down and solved nothing. So I decided to correct myself and talk to her (along with the rest of them) here on the UD platform instead. It’s much safer and realistic in such a space. I can do it out of love and respect. With a clearer mind and without foolish, emotionally driven, back-and-forth nonsense to clog up the works here. I realized what I needed to say to her was in no way isolated to her and our personal experience. So I wrote it here instead.
So to all the ladies that keep challenging and conflicting with me in their ignorance and broken behavior...
Your basic premises usually hold enough truth and have some useful validity to them. Where this applies, I stand with you, I support your points and I value your input. I also understand what you are going through as a woman. Whether you have the capacity and clarity to recognize this or not. It’s one of the many reasons why I still associate with, communicate with and appreciate you. But your assessments on what’s actually happening and when they are actually taking place are often quite wrong. Also, the assessments on why they are taking place are usually wrong as well. I don’t know how you figure other people and their experiences out on your journey, but you are usually far out off context when it comes to me, most men, and the bigger picture of the situations we face. Other simple people and their “realities” I assume are not as complex or sophisticated, so you may be able to use your current arsenal of understanding to sort it out and prove to be correct enough to make due, under the illusion. But there are quite a few exceptional cases for me and what I have to deal with. It should be apparent that I am not nearly the only one. You have a scarce-to-nil chance of being able to use the same range of mental/spiritual acuity to achieve the same results with my kind.
Contrary to your extremely limited recognition, this issue is bigger than just my dynamics and experiences with you. It’s not personal. In reality, it is a global (and potentially cosmic) issue. But let’s not jump too far out of range.
I see the same characteristics in many (really all) women around me. Wrong about most stuff in essence; unnecessarily and unproductively confrontational; unconsciously and indirectly dominant; pushy and passively competitive; inherently controlling, driven by societal norms; entitled, with un-earned diva like mannerisms and expectations; using emotional irrationality to make judgements, decisions and rebuttals; All part of a single, but not-so-obvious package.
Sisters, cousins, nieces and associates alike. Even all the females that I’ve been convinced to be with, marry and have children with, inevitably exhibit the exact same deeply problematic traits. And I’ve never been given the solution to this. As a result I have had to figure it all out for myself. Most of it at least. Except where my Father and a few other clear minded men vaguely filled me in here and there. No clear cut solutions though. Apparently because no one had them, and most still don’t. How could they, when they have no awareness of the cause; if they can even recognize that these debilitating counter-productive issues even exist! But I know now, through heavy experience, long suffering, and a man’s knowledge and wisdom applied, what the issues are. And I am quite confident that I have a much better innerstanding on how they should be addressed than you and the rest of the likes.
Of course no one is going to join me or intelligently hear me out, patiently consider the points and experimentally apply the changes for a better future of ours. And no one has their thesis together well enough, if at all, to oppositionally debate me in life’s lab; towards an active solution, without the BS. If they try, they just bring the same problems to the lab, without accountability. And she replies…
“Well, If you know better than me, you sure ain’t doing better!”
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I guess she's right... On the surface, as usual.
Yet, for those of us with clarity of the source issues and hard time spent attaining the solutions, it’s still a constant struggle with the society as a whole and many contradictions built into it. So even WITH the solutions, it’s only half the problem solved, sense the means to the solution do not exist or are not readily available, and nearly all the ladies are hard-wired into the problem and won’t let up. They’ve become “Perpetrators With a Pass”. Could the solution even be explained to and absorbed using the mind you identify with? So far, the answer to this is apparent. There’s much more to cover here, but that should serve as an introduction…
That’s why for the first time in my life, I am now glad that I have been ‘dumped’, shunned (and even outcasted in some instances) by the gynocratic rule and it’s mostly foolishly unaware participants. It took me this long to get through it and transcend the suffering and the loss of who I am, as a man and as a universal being of higher function and purpose. At first I laid there as if I lost it all, in misery, trying to figure out how to make the adjustments within myself and get back inside, with good standings. I would literally fight, beg, cry, plead and hustle to maintain a valued standing in her eyes and keep a position in her life that she would deem fit. In the end, I got my ass up and walked away. Good riddens.
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It’s a new day! I no longer have the space to compromise with my new position. The already mentioned issues and the rest of the fallacies that come with the package can literally ruin a man if he caters to and validates it. But many women will indirectly force you (along with the strong pressure of the warped societal culture and the system) to give in and go along. You won’t even notice it’s happening. Sometimes they can’t see it either! But so far, there is nowhere to go in the american system (in general at least. As far as I have been able to witness) that does not silently and even unconsciously impose such reality onto you as, but not limited to, a black man.
I hate to have to say this, but as black men who are amongst black women by default....
When trying to escape it, the first stop and the most active one; even before one reaches the wider, heavier system; is the black woman (and women in general with a western wired premise and mindset). From this view, you get to see the women who operate this machine-like problem, mindlessly and often desireably. It intercepts ones growth, true empowerment and freedom on the path to a sovereign black man.
My father spoke about this often with me, in his own way. I only ‘got it’ partially back then because my understanding was often still subject to the gynocratic disorder. The proverbial red pill was stuck in my throat; yet to be swallowed, processed and digested properly. But it was in there. His words tried to help me swallow, and it did help some. But that is part of the reason why he did not come back to any woman he had been with before. No matter who it was. It’s part of why he did not get back with any female while pursuing the journey, even when it was suggested and planned by some woman to do so. Case in point. I get it now though. But he loved them dearly and still valued and appreciated who they are, where it made sense. Whether in stand-alone mode or in comparison to each other. It’s also why he only dealt with women temporarily, when he had to, but none of them were intended to be his final destination in any way. None were qualified. And none were free of these atrocities. I only mention him as an example. It doesn’t matter though. Many men are dealing with this. In a place like the US, it’s definitely not limited to black men or men from The States alone. Not even close.
Even those women who might find themselves speaking about and against the problems to whatever extent, they will not let up in practical action and life’s application. For those who try, often fail and cannot withstand the indoctrinating, programmatic, nearly inherent and ubiquitous pull and influence of the elusive triad of grynocratic perpetrators. This triad is comprised of themselves, the surrounding society and the governing system that enforces these deal breaking standards. Each with their own degrees of active awareness in the matter. And each with their own interests, benefits and agenda.
Oft times it even gains the support of many of the men who don’t get it or are trying to fit in and get their share. Maybe it’s the ones who have had a perceivably good experience with the women on their journey. Some are not bothered by it. Some have a cultural or religious belief that is in support of this nonsense. Only a few of us are left to say no more! This is not the way for us.
I am sick and tired of having to make counter-intuitive modifications to the point, premise or presentation in order to emotionally accommodate someone who is objectively or scientifically wrong in their analysis and conclusion when it comes to these basic but ingrained problematic societal and relationship issues. Men and women alike! Definitely not limited to, but especially within the black community
"If your perception and analysis is wrong, an equal conclusion will follow."
Even if the concepts and general awareness is usually on point, when it’s time to get down to the nitty gritty of things, I have to struggle relentlessly to reveal to them that their analysis is usually terribly off. It’s another sickening struggle to try and get them to accept it. To get a constructive applied change based on that acceptance is a whole other set of challenges exclusively. And it doesn’t end there.
Wait, this applies to more than just the women. It's not one sided. But back to the ladies...
Even time off and away does not help them garner the correction. Trust me, I’ve dealt with this over and over. My past life has been nearly ruined under the gynocracy and such irritating malfunctioning realities that come with it. I’m not saying it doesn’t have it’s place and does not or can not work for some. If it does, blessings to you. For me, it doesn’t work. I literally can not support it or tolerate it hovering above me anymore. Even when it’s coming from my mom, mate, daughter or sis. All of which I may love dearly and do not want to lose or “hurt”. I personally can’t stand it on all fronts. But it soon becomes apparent that I do not have a choice if I want to continue to engage and be a part of the in-crowd and accepted as a “good man” according to these biased societal standards in america today. Otherwise you’ll get the title of angry-black-man, dead-beat-dad or something else illegitimate. And you need to be corrected. So correct yourself and make the adjustment, Bruh.
This, (and many other reasons) is why, no matter how advanced many women seem, you just can’t go to most advanced places with them. She will think she knows and she simply doesn’t. You can’t tell her nothing! And she will instinctively blackball you with something, in some way, if you try. You are gonna catch hell, laced with much unwavering irrationality, one way or the other, if you try to correct her or even address her.
If you point this stuff out and openly acknowledge, to her face, that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about…
If you stick to your guns and actually put into action, the truth that opposes her rule, control or benefit…
If you just tell her NO and allow none of what she delivers through these irrationalities to infect or have any affect on you…
Be ready!
For what?
For it NOT to go well.
In some cases, you have the ones who will often agree, in theory, when sitting at the proverbial or literal table with you. Then watch what happens in the actual real-time event and processing of such. Drama and confusion. It’s in cases like these that a man must quickly learn that theorizing or text book talking with her can be great. And thank goodness that he has been graced with one that is capable of this.. But it does not necessarily equal or lead to her functionality where it counts, in action. In real time. In practical functional operation.
“Hey, wait. To be thorough and fair, this issue applies to men as well! To people in general” That’s what she said.
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Facts! We're not denying this at all. We're just focusing on a specific sector right now. Because you know this is therapeutic, man! But back to these ladies...
They will often passive aggressively compete with you. They will initiate operation ad-hominem, and so many other similar variants. Stand up to it and say no and watch the problems emerge. As punishment or payback, you could either be deprived of something that should be given to you without bias; left for dead (or to your lonesome); slandered in your circle (or society in general, depending on your status); have your children removed and rejecting you; accused of some harsh or taboo acts and behaviors; pushed to the edge of your discipline, sanity and composure; and on it goes.
In the moment, all you can do is genuinely apologize for “violating and disrespecting her” as she may put it.
"Thanks for doing the best you can. It counts and I see it. No matter what you think, or mis-think for that matter."
And Mean it!... Then get the hell outta there on the double!
For you one dimensional, hating, gynocratic first responders (GFR), I am not against women or men. Don’t even try the mysogyny game and miss me with your religious or mythical standards of how I SHOULD be viewing women instead.
We don’t turn women into targeted individuals over here. You know the rules. NO GANGSTALKING ALLOWED!
Men and women both have issues within their synergic dynamics and they must be addressed, but this one is on topic as it was chosen to be. They say you’ll know who’s in charge based on who you can not criticize. We’ll keep an eye out for that. If anything, the correction of such issues can be a benefit to women and men alike. The dialogue is open to men and women who are trying to move forward and solve these problems outside of the way massa and his broken society of sheeple have decided to do.
Oh, and I can’t forget the fact that we do have a sect of women that try to be fairly considerate and understanding when dealing with this. The gynocratic backup party (GBP).
They may say to you… “Well that’s your opinion.”
I say to them..
I feel you on the ‘opinions’. That’s a start. THE PROBLEM here is our people now have no real clarity on what is an opinion and what is either an actual fact and/or a working solution.
That's 'YOUR TRUTH'!!! is the new way. And everybody's got their own, huh?...
But when do we get to THEE TRUTH?
No flow there… Go figure.
Everything is stuffed into the category of that’s your opinion and this is mine. Working with all independent opinions, feelings and expressions, instead of what we actually need to move forward and overcome. Not just talk, emotionalism and applied cognitive dissonance. THE CHALLENGE is how do we distinguish the difference? And who is gonna be held liable and responsible to do so? Otherwise, we can be opinionated til the end of our bleeding divide, masquerading as freedom and independence. Unnecessary machismo and femininity, existing as opposing forces, to no true liberation and happiness for any of us. Headed to the grave with our so-called opinions but no functioning results, resolve, or life changing applied conclusions for our disastrous divided outcomes as men and women.
Most are not prepared or even qualified to tackle this.
And the children are left in the background. But don’t worry. We’ve got the no-child-left-behind rule. They’ll all be up to speed in no time. Ready to take this disaster to the inevitable next level. Even faster than the last generation did!
But again, most are not nearly qualified to tackle such issues.
If one is presented with something that is out of range of their awareness or comprehension, how then could they conclude, under such circumstances, that what’s being presented to them is an opinion only?
Of course the ladies have the answer. They ALWAYS know better than the rest of us… Oh well.
P.S. If you are a man who has found a woman to be with that does not function like this. If you have a female friend, cousin or whatever, that operates outside of this craziness…
YOU ARE EXTREMELY IN A GOOD POSITION. YOU HAVE FOUND A GEM. A DIAMOND. PEACE PROTECTION AND PROSPERITY TO YOU AND SHE. NEVER LET HER GO, LOVE HER, PROTECT HER AND TAKE FULL LOVING ADVANTAGE TO GROW TO GLORY WITH HER!
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Another mind cleaner!!!
Yep. Glad you can see it. Thanks for being part of the Cipher! Love
The one thing I can say is: functioning around anyone at anytime is tolerable as long as they (whomever they are) exists in a manner where they handle their own “life’s business” in a way that doesn’t require anyone to be present. No need for another body necessarily when I still need to “find me”. Children included. However, this is not easily executed when people are all around at any given time. All day. Every day. As for “Address That. Handle You”, the mission is all about coexistence but without the dependency of others. Sure you may live here. Sure you may be my offspring. Sure you may be my coworker. Sure you may be my teacher. Sure you’re the bank rep I must speak with. Etc. But…in the ATHY world, I do not need “you” which does not mean I will disagree with or disrespect you (whoever “they” are). Bottom line, handle you. Handling “self” usually requires no communication so none is needed. No one is listening anyway so why say anything. Over here, it’s all about “stand back and observe. Maybe you can learn something. If not, stop looking this way and stand in front of a mirror.” 🫣
But I realize that usually someone else in the room is “needy” and just because I’m there nearby does not mean I have the ability to listen and assist.
If anyone attempts to critique me, I say “tell yourself the same and see if you ‘bout that”. Furthermore, the FINAL response, if any, is not a behavior as a result of insults. My FINAL response is “go fix it – whatever it is” which usually requires them to immediately “make a move” and/or remove themselves from the space that’s causing them to complain and become “weak and stagnant” more than they can locate, use, and achieve any type of progress (for themselves). I just happen to be there. Better yet, I’ll move. How about that.
Most people hide under others they claim are mediocre in an attempt to create a “blame” situation” on why they “suck” and “just can’t get right”.
Next thing I know, somebody’s emotional and plotting war against me. It never fails and nor does it surprise me anymore. I’m too busy handling “me” making sure no handlers catch me slipping. Blinders on. I see my path. Not theirs.
As long as I can hear my “self” speaking in the midst of all the noise they call “communication and conversation”, I’ll never be forced to listen to anyone attempting to “nag” my ears off. There’s more than enough of that going on internally to allow anyone to “add” to externally. It’s already hard enough trying to get the “internal” conversations sorted properly or quieted down. Therefore, no one else’s “blabbering” is allowed if it is anything other than “strategy” for immediate action for immediate resolution.
Again, those who stand/function alone in a room, house, job, classroom, etc. full of extra bodies are the ones who create “passes” for themselves. No permission sought.
We do not ask or wait for the approval of anyone and nor do we allow the frailties of others cause us to behave in a manner that we know will only set us back (to baby behaviors) after all the hard work put in on this journey called “aging”.
Regardless of what anyone says or attempts to impose upon others, when the duty to self is real and imbedded deep, all talks against me is nothing more than noise. FACTS.
Action exceeds any jargon, consistency exceeds any sense some claim to possess, progressive behavior exceeds noise (aka verbal assassinations and flabber-jabbering). Overthrowing opposition exceeds ANY pity parties. 💯🪖🫡🎖️🎖️🎖️
Lastly, pardon any typos (if any).
Although you made some points here, I have no clue what the hell you are talking about or what any of that has to do with the Cipher at hand. One thing is apparent though. You’re DEFINITELY a female. Ha! It’s all good though. Again as usual, I definitely value the need to do for self. I also do not support the concept of self! self! self! over everything else. I here you stress this so much in this and other comments that you have left elsewhere. I think there is a point where one must deal with that, especially in these currently divided times. If you don’t, you probably won’t get anything done or accomplished. But people just take it too far and go overboard. It is a problem to function this way. It should have only been a temp or circumstantial way of behaving under the current broken, divided state. But for many, it’s their way, regardless. I personally am looking forward to and aiming towards a reality that corrects this. I don’t agree and do not believe we were designed to function in such a way. Even if we were, I intend to change that. I will avoid the heavy details and explanations on this matter. I also am not going to reply to anything else you mentioned because it’s irrelevant and will lead the Cipher somewhere else completely out of context. Case in point.
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But your comments are still welcome, just don’t get too out of body. Love.
No disrespect to the writer of this response but, honestly I see no actual points being made here. Nothing that says, this is, in response to the original post “Trouble with the ladies..” Yet ironically enough, this solidified the point made in the org post, that there IS definitely something wrong with the ladies, if you are one and in general even if your not. Thank you
I’M STILL ON THIS!!
Me too. 🙂 Working on more in this category. Keep Ciphering!